tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10911751.post115939048251079165..comments2024-03-07T02:00:01.582-05:00Comments on NEI Nuclear Notes: Dr. Caldicott vs. Nuclear Power – Round ThreeUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10911751.post-1161275680798248222006-10-19T12:34:00.000-04:002006-10-19T12:34:00.000-04:00I need to correct myself on underground mining. Ca...I need to correct myself on underground mining. Cameco has had to use robots at some of its underground sites because the ore grades are high (somewhere around 50-60%). As a result the radon undergound is very high. <BR/><BR/>Most other sites that have ore grades less than 1% do not need robots though. There is still radon underground but it is not an issue with proper ventilation systems. That was the problem with the Native Americans in that they were not as aware of the health effects and did not have the ventilation as is now required.David Bradishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02439638522932781068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10911751.post-1161124273893432402006-10-17T18:31:00.000-04:002006-10-17T18:31:00.000-04:00daniel,There shouldn't be any rate of lung cancer ...daniel,<BR/><BR/>There shouldn't be any rate of lung cancer for uranium miners. There are virtually no <A HREF="http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/inf25.htm" REL="nofollow">health effects with uranium mining</A>. <BR/><BR/>I assume you read her information on page 48. Well if you look up the <A HREF="http://www.nirs.org/mononline/nm627.pdf" REL="nofollow">source she uses</A> (pdf) on page 5 where Dr. Caldicott pulled the information you will see that there is no quantitative data for lung cancer as Dr. Caldicott states. There is however quite a few quotes on the health effects of uranium such as this: <BR/><BR/>"Though the toxic effects of radiation were known to government officials, no one did anything to protect the Navajo miners," said Cora Maxx-Phillips of the Office of the President and Vice President of the Navajo Nation. "Our people toiled day and night in the mines without face masks, ventilation or clean drinking water. They breathed the radioactive dust and drank contaminated water, and later paid with their lives and their land."<BR/><BR/>If you go to that <A HREF="http://www.gallupindependent.com/2005/may/050605glofor.html" REL="nofollow">source</A> you will find that the workers were mining the uranium for the atomic bombs used against Japan. Nothing to do with nuclear power. <BR/><BR/>And as well, I'm pretty certain the current practice of mining uranium underground does not allow miners to actually go underground. They use robots to mine because the radioactivity is quite high.<BR/><BR/>I take it you didn't bother exploring her references.David Bradishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02439638522932781068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10911751.post-1160514756179059632006-10-10T17:12:00.000-04:002006-10-10T17:12:00.000-04:00I am reading Caldicott's book and just finished ch...I am reading Caldicott's book and just finished chapter 3. <BR/><BR/>Yikes! I'm feeling woosie just reading about the effects of TMI and Cher. <BR/><BR/>If even 10% of the evidence she cites is true, I can't believe that anyone not earning a living from the nuclear industry could support more nukes.<BR/><BR/>The rebuttals to this chapter cited so far seem to focus myopically on a few sentances of a 40 page chapter. What about the rest? <BR/><BR/>For starters what is the rate of lung cancer for uranium miners? Who tracks this information? Dr. Caldicott cites 20-50% which seems quite broad...Danielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00989098653955627380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10911751.post-1160004647058198052006-10-04T19:30:00.000-04:002006-10-04T19:30:00.000-04:00You have mis-stated the containment efficiency at ...You have mis-stated the containment efficiency at Gabon. You say<BR/><I>"in Gabon, West Africa, a natural nuclear reaction occurred 2 billion years ago in which all the radioactive waste was contained."</I><BR/>but not all elements were well contained. <BR/><BR/>James Cook University's Earth Sciences<BR/><A HREF="http://tesla.jcu.edu.au/schools/earth/EA1002/Energy/nuclear_waste_disposal.html" REL="nofollow"> nuclear waste disposal page</A> says<BR/><I> "Many of the 'waste' radionuclides produced by the reactions at Oklo, such as plutonium, neptunium and thorium, either stayed where they formed or moved only short distances in the surrounding rock before they decayed to stable isotopes. Some of the radioclides, such as the noble gases and elements such as the halogens that are highly soluble and poorly sorbed, were lost from the immediate vicinity."<BR/></I>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10911751.post-1159553124990715052006-09-29T14:05:00.000-04:002006-09-29T14:05:00.000-04:00Randal Leavitt asked..."Why does she think that wa...Randal Leavitt asked...<BR/><BR/><I>"Why does she think that way she does? What motivates her to travel all over giving speeches that misrepresent the nuclear option? What industrial groups benefit from her actions? Who pays her to do this and how can this payment cycle be stopped?"</I><BR/><BR/>I favor the "stuck on stupid" hypothesis put forth in <A HREF="http://neinuclearnotes.blogspot.com/2006/09/why-al-gore-downplays-nuclear-energy.html" REL="nofollow">another thread</A>. Whoops ... sorry ... I meant to say "reality challenged." There's no reason not to be PC.Brian Mayshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13962229896535398120noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10911751.post-1159413751683352672006-09-27T23:22:00.000-04:002006-09-27T23:22:00.000-04:00Good post - it is very important that people argue...Good post - it is very important that people argue back when Caldicott writes. Otherwise, her constant repetition starts to seem like truth.<BR/><BR/>Why does she think that way she does? What motivates her to travel all over giving speeches that misrepresent the nuclear option? What industrial groups benefit from her actions? Who pays her to do this and how can this payment cycle be stopped?<BR/><BR/>Caldicott and many other enviro-alamists are very vocal about what they don't want. They are usually very silent about what they want. The real world consequences such as the continued use of coal and oil resulting from the eternal failure of wind to generate anything significant, is not admitted. These people carry a huge burden of guilt for all the harm that their anti-nuclear misrepresentation has caused. They should be forced to list, analyze, and apologize for the pain they have caused.Randal Leavitthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13529254319710800686noreply@blogger.com