tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10911751.post6542426881137540021..comments2024-03-07T02:00:01.582-05:00Comments on NEI Nuclear Notes: Job Growth in the Nuclear Energy IndustryUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10911751.post-41055667879910358542009-02-10T15:15:00.000-05:002009-02-10T15:15:00.000-05:00No need to apologize. Let me rephrase my statement...No need to apologize. Let me rephrase my statement on wind. How about this? Nuclear plants generate 90 percent of their rated capacity whereas wind turbines generate only 30 percent of their rated capacity. Thus, if a wind farm were to generate the same amount of electricity as a nuclear plant in a year, then a wind farm would need to be three times a nuclear plant's capacity.David Bradishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02439638522932781068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10911751.post-13152023717085120142009-02-10T13:51:00.000-05:002009-02-10T13:51:00.000-05:00Apologies on the default rate canard -- that was t...Apologies on the default rate canard -- that was the <A HREF="http://sovietologist.blogspot.com/2009/01/will-50-of-nuclear-loan-gurantees.html" REL="nofollow">CBO's expected default rate</A> for future loans, which didn't take into account carbon pricing. I hope you'll admit that the 30% reliability of wind is <A HREF="http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/rea/news/article/2008/03/clearing-the-air-wind-power-and-reliability-51767" REL="nofollow">also a misleading canard</A>. That's the reliability rate for a single turbine, not a wind farm or regional wind-power network.The Cunctatorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00011732580647430145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10911751.post-27737861760427036322009-02-10T06:48:00.000-05:002009-02-10T06:48:00.000-05:00perdajz, we took quite some time studying these nu...perdajz, we took quite some time studying these numbers, we've vetted them, and they are what we've found (unless you have different numbers available). You bring up an excellent point but I think there are other factors to consider. <BR/><BR/>A nuclear plant produces electricity 90 percent of the time versus wind which produces electricity 30 percent of the time. Nuclear plants are highly reliable, wind turbines aren't. <BR/><BR/>I'm speculating here but maybe if other technologies wanted to be as reliable as nuclear plants, then the number of jobs to make that happen would grow exponentially not linearly.<BR/><BR/>As well, there are huge economic benefits for employing the number of people a nuclear plant does. We've been doing economic benefits reports on nuclear plants for years and what is true is that for every direct job they employ, exactly another indirect job is created. This happens due to the spending by the plant as well as the spending by the employees. The communities around the nuclear plants realize this which is why we see public favor-ability higher around the plants.<BR/><BR/>The Cunctator, the lg program is not free. If it works as designed, the nuclear utilities will be the ones paying for the program through the fees associated with receiving a loan guarantee. The historical default rate was not about 50%. I recall that the only company that defaulted on nuclear plants was Washington Public Power Service.<BR/><BR/>perdajz, I'd be interested to hear your thoughts.David Bradishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02439638522932781068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10911751.post-11524921889318275222009-02-10T00:31:00.000-05:002009-02-10T00:31:00.000-05:00The jobs numbers make total sense. Once a wind tur...The jobs numbers make total sense. Once a wind turbine is built, it's practically free energy. Just a little labor for maintenance. Most of the labor is in construction and installation, and since it's a growth industry, that's a lot of jobs. <BR/><BR/>Problem is, nuclear's the exact opposite in every respect. Most of the money for building plants goes into capital, not labor, and then there are high continuing costs involved in mining and processing the fuel, and running the plants. Furthermore, as a mature industry, the growth curve is completely different.<BR/><BR/>I wish people would be willing to separate the merits of an industry from whether or not it's a good idea for the government to be pushing taxpayer dollars on it. <BR/><BR/>Let's have the government spend money developing new nuclear engineers, not subsidizing new plants.The Cunctatorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00011732580647430145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10911751.post-18157380222392168552009-02-10T00:27:00.000-05:002009-02-10T00:27:00.000-05:00It doesn't make any sense that the expected cost o...It doesn't make any sense that the expected cost of loan guarantees would be zero. If it were, there would be no need for loan guarantees.<BR/><BR/>The historical default rate is about 50%. <BR/><BR/>I hope we've learned some lessons in the past year how dangerous high-default loans can be. And these are multi-billion-dollar loans.The Cunctatorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00011732580647430145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10911751.post-8232818042216515662009-02-09T21:29:00.000-05:002009-02-09T21:29:00.000-05:00Huh? There's been some mistake here.The superior t...Huh? There's been some mistake here.<BR/><BR/>The superior technology is the one that requires the least number of workers per unit output. That's what makes a technology cheaper, safer and more reliable. We can "create jobs" by banning the use of tractors, and through government fiat, mandating the use of only shovels; that doesn't mean it makes economic sense.<BR/><BR/>Go back and take another look at this, NEI. The table here implies that a worker in the wind power industry is five times more productive than a worker in the nuclear power industry. That's nonsense.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10911751.post-89865949032889411892009-02-05T17:34:00.000-05:002009-02-05T17:34:00.000-05:00We are very excited about the nuclear opportunitie...We are very excited about the nuclear opportunities <BR/>available today! Check out our <A HREF="http://nuclearstreet.com/jobs/" REL="nofollow">Nuclear <BR/>Jobs</A> board to find your first or next job!NuclearStreet.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03970083734309656492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10911751.post-12932528862539125842009-02-05T16:09:00.000-05:002009-02-05T16:09:00.000-05:00Nuclear engines of job creation described at Idaho...Nuclear engines of job creation described at <A HREF="http://djysrv.blogspot.com/2008/11/nuclear-engines-of-job-creation.html" REL="nofollow">Idaho Samizdat</A>Space Fissionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05205432236787777330noreply@blogger.com